Phoenix Racing Lays Review: Horse Laying Tips

Phoenix Racing Lays Review

Phoenix Racing Lays has done a good job to recover from the downturn we experienced during the first couple of months of our review and we are very nearly back to where we started. After four months we have made a small loss of 5.51 points which represents just under 2% of our starting bank.

It's been a straight-forward service to follow as all lays are placed at Betfair SP, with the only rule being that the odds should not be more than 5.0. Although the service advises using a bot to do this, it is possible to set the max odds using the regular Betfair interface.

Breakdown of monthly profit/loss:

  • Update 1: -17.39pts
  • Update 2: -8.13pts
  • Update 3 : +17.69pts
  • Update 4: +2.32pts
  • Total: -5.51pts
Review Stats -5.51pts profit, -1.3% ROI, 62% SR
Stakes Level 1 point stakes
Starting bank 300 points
Average no. bets Approx. 50 per month
Time of emails Morning
Price £1 for 30 days then £17 per month or £37 per quarter
Rating Neutral

Key Stats - Overall
 Betfair SP
Number of Lays216
Total Stakes (pts)411.66
Profit/Loss (pts)-5.51
Profit/Loss (£10 stakes)-£55.10
Average Odds2.91
Strike Rate62.0%
ROI-1.3%
Overall Bank Growth-1.8%
Bank (300pt starting)294.49

Phoenix Racing Lays Review Graph

Results - Update Four
DateCourseTimeSelectionStakeLiabilityBSP OddsP/LBank
25/08/2018Goodwood14:05Beat The Bank1.001.662.66-1.66290.51
25/08/2018York15:00Expert Eye1.001.132.13-1.13289.38
25/08/2018Redcar16:55Island Song1.001.472.470.95290.33
25/08/2018Redcar18:00Concello1.001.082.08-1.08289.25
27/08/2018Southwell15:00Point Zero1.002.313.310.95290.20
27/08/2018Southwell17:20Limerick Lord1.003.204.200.95291.15
29/08/2018Musselburgh14:10Buriram1.002.213.210.95292.10
29/08/2018Musselburgh14:40Trautmann1.002.073.070.95293.05
29/08/2018Lingfield15:20Outback Traveller1.001.312.310.95294.00
29/08/2018Musselburgh16:40Bodacious Name1.002.973.970.95294.95
29/08/2018Lingfield16:55Zoffany Bay1.000.871.870.95295.90
29/08/2018Kempton18:55Maaward1.000.651.65-0.65295.25
30/08/2018Musselburgh13:50Aloysius Lilius1.002.253.25-2.25293.00
30/08/2018Fontwell16:35Magical Thomas1.001.302.30-1.30291.70
31/08/2018Bangor13:50Full Bore1.002.003.00-2.00289.70
31/08/2018Thirsk17:15The Knot Is Tied1.001.192.19-1.19288.51
31/08/2018Newcastle18:45Spanish Archer1.000.791.790.95289.46
31/08/2018Wolverhampton19:05Dont Look Down1.003.754.750.95290.41
31/08/2018Hamilton20:00Guardia Svizzera1.001.082.08-1.08289.33
01/09/2018Wolverhampton13:45Celtic Artisan1.002.573.57-2.57286.76
01/09/2018Beverley14:45Take Cover1.003.314.31-3.31283.45
01/09/2018Wolverhampton15:30Tangramm1.001.932.930.95284.40
01/09/2018Beverley17:05Macho Mover1.001.362.360.95285.35
01/09/2018Newton Abbot17:25Alizee Javilex1.001.752.750.95286.30
03/09/2018Ffos Las16:45Jacbequick1.003.164.16-3.16283.14
03/09/2018Newcastle18:20Gleeful1.000.971.970.95284.09
03/09/2018Newcastle19:50Kynance1.002.303.300.95285.04
04/09/2018Stratford17:05Scotsbrook Night1.002.453.450.95285.99
04/09/2018Goodwood17:20Cogital1.001.022.020.95286.94
04/09/2018Leicester18:55Peggie Sue1.002.603.600.95287.89
05/09/2018Bath14:00Spiritual Man1.001.742.740.95288.84
05/09/2018Ffos Las18:30Spirit Ridge1.001.082.080.95289.79
06/09/2018Salisbury16:20Firelight1.002.163.160.95290.74
06/09/2018Haydock17:10Multellie1.001.582.580.95291.69
07/09/2018Haydock13:50Sparkle Roll1.002.653.650.95292.64
07/09/2018Musselburgh17:30Pammi1.003.204.200.95293.59
07/09/2018Musselburgh18:00Zeshov1.001.502.50-1.50292.09
07/09/2018Kempton20:15Indian Tygress1.002.213.21-2.21289.88
10/09/2018Brighton14:00Arcanista1.001.512.51-1.51288.37
10/09/2018Brighton17:15Solveigs Song1.002.353.350.95289.32
11/09/2018Worcester16:55Field Exhibition1.001.872.870.95290.27
11/09/2018Catterick17:45Hawridge Flyer1.001.962.960.95291.22
14/09/2018Salisbury15:30Cricklewood Green1.002.703.700.95292.17
17/09/2018Brighton14:40Red Armour1.001.582.58-1.58290.59
17/09/2018Worcester15:50Stacey Sue1.000.851.85-0.85289.74
17/09/2018Brighton17:10Narjes1.003.304.300.95290.69
17/09/2018Kempton19:00Cuban Heel1.001.422.420.95291.64
19/09/2018Yarmouth15:35Winter Lightning1.003.224.220.95292.59
20/09/2018Pontefract14:10Bugler Bob1.002.923.920.95293.54
21/09/2018Newcastle19:50Ladies First1.001.532.530.95294.49

Summary

We did consider extending this review as another winning month could see us into an overall profit for our trial, but we would still give the same rating regardless. It's certainly a service worth keeping an eye on but we feel that a neutral rating is fair based on the last four months of results.


Phoenix Racing Lays Review: Update Three

25th August 2018

It's been quite a dramatic turnaround for Phoenix Racing Lays in month three of our review, with a fantastic profit of 17.69 points at an ROI of 25.4%. The service achieved a strike rate of 80%, which is a great improvement compared to the previous two months.

Another month like this will see us back into an overall profit, so things are looking much more promising now.


Key Stats - Update Three
 Betfair SP
Number of Lays40
Total Stakes (pts)69.6
Profit/Loss (pts)17.69
Profit/Loss (£10 stakes)£176.90
Average Odds2.74
Strike Rate80.0%
ROI25.4%
Overall Bank Growth-2.6%
Bank (300pt starting)292.17

Results - Update Three
DateCourseTimeSelectionStakeLiabilityBSP OddsP/LBank
25/07/2018Catterick15:40Sultan Baybars1.001.032.030.95275.43
26/07/2018Yarmouth14:00Deeds Not Words1.002.853.85-2.85272.58
26/07/2018Yarmouth17:10Arabian Jazz1.001.212.210.95273.53
27/07/2018Chepstow20:55General Brook1.001.002.00-1.00272.53
28/07/2018Newcastle16:30Adventureman1.003.004.000.95273.48
02/08/2018Nottingham15:20Bin Mafki1.003.104.100.95274.43
02/08/2018Epsom17:45Top Beak1.002.653.650.95275.38
03/08/2018Goodwood13:50Mirage Dancer1.001.222.22-1.22274.16
03/08/2018Goodwood14:25Threading1.002.563.560.95275.11
03/08/2018Wolverhampton18:35Molly Mai1.002.803.800.95276.06
03/08/2018Musselburgh20:20Military Madame1.002.413.410.95277.01
04/08/2018Lingfield16:55Three CS1.001.112.110.95277.96
04/08/2018Thirsk17:10Admiral Rooke1.002.503.500.95278.91
04/08/2018Hamilton20:50Iron Sky1.001.332.330.95279.86
06/08/2018Ripon16:30Eyecatcher1.000.661.66-0.66279.20
06/08/2018Newton Abbot17:25Lochinver1.001.862.860.95280.15
08/08/2018Pontefract14:20Final Rock1.000.981.980.95281.10
08/08/2018Yarmouth19:50Late Change1.003.504.50-3.50277.60
10/08/2018Wolverhampton13:50Magical Wish1.000.741.740.95278.55
10/08/2018Newmarket18:00Capla Gilda1.002.083.080.95279.50
14/08/2018Ffos Las15:15Elsaabiqaat1.002.113.110.95280.45
15/08/2018Beverley14:30Kingson1.001.802.800.95281.40
15/08/2018Beverley15:00Jacbequick1.001.632.63-1.63279.77
16/08/2018Chepstow18:40Slipstream1.000.801.800.95280.72
16/08/2018Yarmouth19:30La Isla Bonita1.001.362.360.95281.67
20/08/2018Leicester15:50Over The Guns1.001.272.270.95282.62
22/08/2018Brighton14:15Kings Girl1.001.422.420.95283.57
22/08/2018Brighton14:50Harlequin Rose1.002.703.700.95284.52
22/08/2018York15:00Cross Counter1.001.652.650.95285.47
22/08/2018York15:35Poets Word1.001.802.800.95286.42
22/08/2018Worcester19:00Hassle1.001.422.420.95287.37
23/08/2018York13:55Angels Hideaway1.001.802.800.95288.32
23/08/2018Chepstow14:15Just Sherry1.001.592.590.95289.27
23/08/2018Chepstow14:50The Groove1.001.262.26-1.26288.01
23/08/2018Chepstow15:25K Club1.000.991.990.95288.96
23/08/2018York16:15Lah Ti Dar1.000.591.59-0.59288.37
23/08/2018Fontwell18:50Eric The Third1.001.362.360.95289.32
24/08/2018Ffos Las15:25Q Twenty Boy1.001.372.370.95290.27
24/08/2018Goodwood17:05Belated Breath1.001.302.300.95291.22
24/08/2018Salisbury19:55Fields Of Fortune1.002.793.790.95292.17

We will be back with our next set of results in a month's time.


Phoenix Racing Lays Review: Update Two

25th July 2018

It's been another tricky month for Phoenix Racing Lays with a further loss of 8.13 points, which brings our overall loss up to 25.52 points. 

There were less than half the amount of bets over the past month, with just 39 this month compared to 87 last month. We're not sure of the reason behind this, it may just be that there were less races meeting the criteria for the system.


Key Stats - Update Two
 Betfair SP
Number of Lays39
Total Stakes (pts)75.77
Profit/Loss (pts)-8.13
Profit/Loss (£10 stakes)-£81.30
Average Odds2.94
Strike Rate56.4%
ROI-10.7%
Overall Bank Growth-8.5%
Bank (300pt starting)274.48

Results - Update Two
DateCourseTimeSelectionStakeLiabilityBSP OddsP/LBank
25/06/2018Southwell16:45Simply Lucky1.001.542.540.95283.56
25/06/2018Wolverhampton19:20Montague1.001.642.64-1.64281.92
26/06/2018Newton Abbot18:00Lady Longshot1.003.504.50-3.50278.42
27/06/2018Salisbury17:10Thimbleweed1.001.102.10-1.10277.32
27/06/2018Bath19:20Case Key1.003.994.990.95278.27
28/06/2018Nottingham15:25Mainsail Atlantic1.000.891.890.95279.22
28/06/2018Newmarket15:50Choco Box1.001.222.220.95280.17
28/06/2018Hamilton19:00Gaelic Wizard1.002.293.29-2.29277.88
29/06/2018Yarmouth14:10Wiff Waff1.003.204.200.95278.83
29/06/2018Yarmouth15:40Broken Force1.001.252.250.95279.78
03/07/2018Hamilton15:15Brexit Time1.001.142.14-1.14278.64
03/07/2018Brighton15:30Roy Rocket1.001.312.31-1.31277.33
03/07/2018Chepstow20:15Final Rock1.002.343.34-2.34274.99
03/07/2018Chepstow21:15Circling Moon1.001.362.36-1.36273.63
04/07/2018Musselburgh15:00Breakwater Bay1.002.253.250.95274.58
04/07/2018Thirsk16:20History Writer1.001.352.350.95275.53
04/07/2018Bath21:10Geetanjali1.001.242.24-1.24274.29
07/07/2018Haydock13:10Horseplay1.003.204.20-3.20271.09
07/07/2018Beverley14:00The Trader1.002.523.52-2.52268.57
07/07/2018Beverley16:20Bit Of A Quirke1.001.902.90-1.90266.67
09/07/2018Worcester15:55Beach Break1.002.453.450.95267.62
09/07/2018Worcester17:00Howlongisafoot1.001.992.99-1.99265.63
09/07/2018Ripon18:30Lorton1.000.861.86-0.86264.77
09/07/2018Ripon20:30Global Excel1.002.253.250.95265.72
10/07/2018Pontefract15:00Shenanigans1.002.243.240.95266.67
10/07/2018Brighton18:40Gainsay1.002.233.230.95267.62
11/07/2018Yarmouth14:50Pink Iceburg1.000.771.77-0.77266.85
11/07/2018Lingfield15:30Bailarico1.000.661.66-0.66266.19
11/07/2018Lingfield17:05Rippling Waters1.001.342.340.95267.14
11/07/2018Bath21:10Jaganory1.002.193.190.95268.09
13/07/2018Newmarket14:25Main Edition1.003.204.200.95269.04
16/07/2018Wolverhampton20:10Real Estate1.001.352.350.95269.99
17/07/2018Beverley14:00Diamonique1.001.672.670.95270.94
17/07/2018Thirsk19:40Penwood1.001.852.850.95271.89
18/07/2018Catterick17:00Wotabreeze1.003.314.310.95272.84
21/07/2018Lingfield20:15Good Fortune1.001.212.21-1.21271.63
21/07/2018Lingfield20:45Dear Bruin1.002.203.200.95272.58
24/07/2018Musselburgh14:20Twilight1.003.404.400.95273.53
24/07/2018Nottingham20:30Affair1.001.372.370.95274.48

This service isn't cutting the mustard at the moment, but let's see if they can deliver a profit in month three. We'll be back soon with another update.


Phoenix Racing Lays Review: Update One

27th June 2018

It's been a poor start to our Phoenix Racing Lays review with a loss of 17.39 points at an ROI of -10.3%. This only represents a 5.8% decrease to our bank as we were advised to use a sizeable 300 point starting bank, but it's still going to take some work to get back on track.

You would think that it would be easier to find horses that lose, but we have already experienced a run of eight losing lay bets in a row.

Thankfully the service did finish the month on a good note with nine winning lays so hopefully we are be on the road to recovery now.


Key Stats - Update One
 Betfair SP
Number of Lays87
Total Stakes (pts)168.25
Profit/Loss (pts)-17.39
Profit/Loss (£10 stakes)-£173.90
Average Odds2.93
Strike Rate54.0%
ROI-10.3%
Overall Bank Growth-5.8%
Bank (300pt starting)282.61

Results - Update One
DateCourseTimeSelectionStakeLiabilityBSP OddsP/LBank
25/05/2018Bath15:20Juneau1.000.901.90-0.90299.10
25/05/2018Haydock15:30Shepherd Market1.002.103.100.95300.05
25/05/2018Goodwood15:45Highbrow1.002.653.650.95301.00
25/05/2018Worcester17:40Arthurs Secret1.001.122.12-1.12299.88
25/05/2018Pontefract21:00Angels1.000.451.45-0.45299.43
26/05/2018Goodwood15:45Mirage Dancer1.001.042.04-1.04298.39
26/05/2018Haydock16:00Battaash1.001.152.15-1.15297.24
26/05/2018Haydock16:35Different League1.002.953.950.95298.19
26/05/2018Ffos Las21:05Court Royale1.002.563.560.95299.14
28/05/2018Huntingdon13:30Fifty Shades1.001.362.360.95300.09
29/05/2018Redcar15:30Worth Waiting1.000.551.55-0.55299.54
29/05/2018Redcar16:30Danehill Desert1.002.083.080.95300.49
29/05/2018Wolverhampton19:40Ledham1.000.591.59-0.59299.90
29/05/2018Brighton19:50Roy Rocket1.002.653.650.95300.85
30/05/2018Beverley14:00Eeh Bah Gum1.003.804.80-3.80297.05
30/05/2018Beverley14:30Only Spoofing1.001.112.11-1.11295.94
30/05/2018Cartmel16:10Man Of Steel1.000.761.76-0.76295.18
30/05/2018Beverley16:30Effervescence1.001.902.900.95296.13
30/05/2018Ripon18:35Rockin Roy1.000.891.890.95297.08
30/05/2018Warwick19:15Too Much Too Soon1.002.093.09-2.09294.99
30/05/2018Ripon20:40Northwest Frontier1.000.741.74-0.74294.25
31/05/2018Lingfield14:10Bayshore Freeway1.002.603.600.95295.20
31/05/2018Hamilton15:00Logi1.001.772.77-1.77293.43
31/05/2018Lingfield16:40Red Island1.001.912.910.95294.38
01/06/2018Catterick13:50Akela Moon1.001.562.560.95295.33
01/06/2018Market Rasen14:15Windspiel1.002.753.750.95296.28
01/06/2018Catterick14:25St Malo1.000.851.85-0.85295.43
01/06/2018Catterick15:00Eeh Bah Gum1.000.751.75-0.75294.68
01/06/2018Epsom17:15Kings Shield1.002.803.800.95295.63
01/06/2018Goodwood18:40Main Edition1.001.342.34-1.34294.29
01/06/2018Bath18:50Altra Vita1.001.722.72-1.72292.57
01/06/2018Goodwood20:50Ganayem1.001.212.21-1.21291.36
01/06/2018Bath21:00King Crimson1.000.921.920.95292.31
02/06/2018Worcester15:30Black Kalanisi1.001.512.51-1.51290.80
02/06/2018Worcester16:05Earth Moor1.001.902.900.95291.75
02/06/2018Lingfield17:40Attain1.002.553.55-2.55289.20
02/06/2018Lingfield18:10Midnight Blue1.001.422.42-1.42287.78
02/06/2018Lingfield18:40Dame Nellie1.002.873.87-2.87284.91
02/06/2018Lingfield19:40Bellevarde1.001.862.86-1.86283.05
02/06/2018Chepstow20:00Flying Sparkle1.001.592.59-1.59281.46
02/06/2018Chepstow20:30Kinglami1.003.304.30-3.30278.16
05/06/2018Fontwell16:15Mogestic1.004.005.00-4.00274.16
05/06/2018Fontwell17:15Little Jack1.002.023.02-2.02272.14
05/06/2018Newcastle18:45Ravenswood1.003.894.890.95273.09
06/06/2018Wolverhampton16:50Prides Gold1.001.482.48-1.48271.61
06/06/2018Wolverhampton17:20Azpeitia1.002.053.050.95272.56
06/06/2018Wetherby21:10Straight Ash1.002.463.460.95273.51
07/06/2018Ripon14:40Juneau1.003.274.270.95274.46
07/06/2018Yarmouth14:50Narynkol1.002.153.150.95275.41
07/06/2018Yarmouth16:50Marilyn1.000.841.84-0.84274.57
08/06/2018Wolverhampton14:50Elliot The Dragon1.002.253.250.95275.52
08/06/2018Wolverhampton15:50First Flight1.000.891.89-0.89274.63
08/06/2018Brighton16:10Altra Vita1.002.113.11-2.11272.52
08/06/2018Wolverhampton16:50Move Swiftly1.000.921.920.95273.47
08/06/2018Goodwood20:50Great Beyond1.003.204.200.95274.42
09/06/2018Catterick14:55Be Perfect1.002.523.52-2.52271.90
09/06/2018Haydock16:00Dutch Connection1.001.452.450.95272.85
09/06/2018Catterick16:05Italian Riviera1.001.042.04-1.04271.81
09/06/2018Catterick17:15Emphatic1.001.582.580.95272.76
09/06/2018Beverley17:35Narodowa1.003.904.900.95273.71
09/06/2018Lingfield18:50Embour1.002.143.14-2.14271.57
09/06/2018Stratford21:05Court Royale1.001.822.820.95272.52
12/06/2018Salisbury17:00Outofthequestion1.002.103.100.95273.47
12/06/2018Lingfield17:50Varsovian1.002.423.42-2.42271.05
15/06/2018Sandown15:10Warsaan1.003.404.400.95272.00
15/06/2018Sandown17:25Eyecatcher1.001.242.240.95272.95
15/06/2018Chepstow17:55Sfumato1.001.632.630.95273.90
15/06/2018Chepstow19:00Dashing Poet1.000.981.98-0.98272.92
15/06/2018Chepstow20:35Queen Of Connaught1.002.353.350.95273.87
15/06/2018Chepstow21:05Bid Adieu1.001.302.30-1.30272.57
16/06/2018Fontwell17:50Howlongisafoot1.002.433.430.95273.52
16/06/2018Fontwell20:25Mrsrobin1.001.262.26-1.26272.26
16/06/2018Leicester20:40Panko1.001.002.00-1.00271.26
18/06/2018Ayr14:30Shes Pukka1.003.234.230.95272.21
18/06/2018Ayr15:05Star Cracker1.001.962.960.95273.16
18/06/2018Ayr16:45Ingleby Hollow1.002.553.550.95274.11
18/06/2018Nottingham17:50Delft Dancer1.002.953.950.95275.06
19/06/2018Beverley18:30Victory Command1.001.002.00-1.00274.06
19/06/2018Brighton18:40Gainsay1.002.653.650.95275.01
19/06/2018Brighton19:40Seinesational1.001.182.180.95275.96
19/06/2018Brighton20:10Sharp Operator1.003.564.560.95276.91
19/06/2018Beverley20:30Roddy1.000.811.810.95277.86
20/06/2018Hamilton17:45Competition1.000.861.860.95278.81
21/06/2018Lingfield18:50White Iverson1.003.404.400.95279.76
22/06/2018Market Rasen14:10Quantum Of Solace1.003.974.970.95280.71
22/06/2018Market Rasen14:45Peculiar Places1.001.032.030.95281.66
23/06/2018Lingfield20:30La Isla Bonita1.002.393.390.95282.61

We will report back in a month's time with our latest results.


Phoenix Racing Lays Review: Introduction

25th May 2018

Phoenix Racing Lays is one of the latest tipping services to pass the six month proofing period at Bets For Today and has recently been made available to the public. The service is run by Charlie Pegg who focuses on providing horse racing lay tips that aren't going to blow your bank if they don't go the right way. 

Despite being new to the network, there are historical results for the service going back to Dec 2015. Overall there has reportedly been a profit of £6,531.60 at £20 per lay, with a strike rate of 63.6% and an ROI of 17.2%.

To put it in perspective, that works out as 326.58 points profit, an average profit of approximately 108 points per year and 9-10 points monthly profit.

Phoenix Racing Lays Review Historical Results

There's no promises of huge profits with this service but instead there is more of a steady, sensible approach with 1 point level stakes for each lay and a comfortable 300 point starting bank.

The tips are delivered by email each morning at around 9.00am and there is just one simple rule that they must be bet at Betfair SP below the maximum odds of 5.00.

The service is available to try for £1 for the first 30 days, followed by payments of either £17 per month or £37 per quarter.

We love a good low-risk system so we are looking forward to seeing how this review goes. We will be back next month with our first update.

  • Goal Profits Rating
  • Rated 2.5 stars

  • Phoenix Racing Lays
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  • Last modified: 1st October 2018

Welcome to our Phoenix Racing Lays review, a horse laying service from the Bets For Today platform.

Pros

  • Straight-forward service to follow
  • Lower than average subscription fees
  • Cons

  • Results for 2018 have been poor in comparison to previous years
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