Profit At The Races Review: Betfair SP Horse Tips

Profit At The Races Review
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Welcome to our Profit At The Races review - A horse racing betting service focusing on All-Weather tracks and using Betfair SP odds.

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We have come to the end of our review of Profit At The Races after trialing the service for three months. The first month had a bright start with 9.95pts profit, but unfortunately it has been downhill ever since. We lost 38.22pts in the 2nd month, which was a huge blow, but if that wasn’t bad enough – wait for this… In the 3rd month we lost a further 62.36pts, leaving us with just 9.37pts left of our 100pt starting bank.

Profit At The Races focuses mainly on All-Weather racing, although tips are emailed out throughout the year. We received approximately 7 selections per betting day. The tips are all to be placed at Betfair SP for 1pt each, although we had a one-off selection this month that had a 2pt stake.

Stuart (Profit At The Races tipster) did forewarn us that there would be long losing runs with this service and the 100pt bank was a minimum. In the past he has tipped some winners priced as high as 319/1 and has managed to turn a profit every year since 2008.

The problem is not many people would have the patience to wait for these huge wins to come in. Overall, the average odds in our trial were 22.79, but there were horses tipped at a range of different odds – even as low as 1.18. The point is the lower odds selections are not winning consistently enough to keep us afloat, whilst we wait for that big winner.

Key Stats:

Month #3Overall
Number of Bets150487
Profit/Loss (pts)-62.36-90.63
Average Odds19.3122.79
Strike Rate10.7%13.1%
ROI-41.3%-18.6%
Bank9.379.37

Profit At The Races Performance

Month #3 Results:

DateCourseTimeSelectionOddsStakeProfit/LossRunning Total
10/12/15Chelmsford City16:05Bahamian Boy5.121.003.91-24.36
10/12/15Chelmsford City18:10Pal Of the Cat30.581.00-1.00-25.36
10/12/15Chelmsford City19:10Ms Eboracum11.071.00-1.00-26.36
11/12/15Wolverhampton16:10Ormanumps24.961.00-1.00-27.36
11/12/15Wolverhampton16:10Strictly Carter3.791.00-1.00-28.36
11/12/15Wolverhampton17:10Brandon Castle2.621.00-1.00-29.36
11/12/15Wolverhampton17:10Corton Lad14.451.0012.78-16.58
11/12/15Wolverhampton18:10Monday Club4.231.00-1.00-17.58
11/12/15Wolverhampton19:10Sewn Up8.401.00-1.00-18.58
12/12/15Southwell11:25Glenbuck Lass39.741.00-1.00-19.58
12/12/15Southwell14:15Incur Four Faults4.391.00-1.00-20.58
12/12/15Wolverhampton18:45Pancake Day32.001.00-1.00-21.58
12/12/15Wolverhampton19:45Winslow8.051.00-1.00-22.58
14/12/15Wolverhampton15:35Sahalin7.001.005.70-16.88
14/12/15Wolverhampton16:40Semille Obon180.001.00-1.00-17.88
15/12/15Southwell13:30Archie's Advice23.901.00-1.00-18.88
15/12/15Southwell13:30Bushel15.741.00-1.00-19.88
15/12/15Southwell13:30Sacred Square36.001.00-1.00-20.88
15/12/15Kempton Park15:10Song Of Paradise16.501.00-1.00-21.88
15/12/15Kempton Park15:10Vroom5.991.004.74-17.14
15/12/15Kempton Park16:10Great And Small21.001.00-1.00-18.14
15/12/15Kempton Park16:40Forest Lakes4.981.00-1.00-19.14
15/12/15Kempton Park16:40Jamaica Inn42.081.00-1.00-20.14
16/12/15Lingfield11:30Lord Huntingdon70.001.00-1.00-21.14
16/12/15Lingfield11:30Sacred Trust3.551.00-1.00-22.14
16/12/15Lingfield12:30Investiture13.621.00-1.00-23.14
16/12/15Lingfield14:15Sheila's Buddy3.731.00-1.00-24.14
16/12/15Kempton Park17:10Cambodia25.771.00-1.00-25.14
16/12/15Kempton Park17:10Sandacres15.001.00-1.00-26.14
16/12/15Kempton Park17:40Canford Thompson31.451.00-1.00-27.14
16/12/15Kempton Park17:40Haweeya31.991.00-1.00-28.14
16/12/15Kempton Park17:40Paris Magic1.911.00-1.00-29.14
16/12/15Kempton Park17:40Wynford14.211.00-1.00-30.14
16/12/15Kempton Park18:10Pearl Spectre6.861.00-1.00-31.14
16/12/15Kempton Park18:40Farletti21.121.00-1.00-32.14
16/12/15Kempton Park19:40Royal Normandy8.901.007.51-24.63
16/12/15Kempton Park19:40Twin Point4.601.00-1.00-25.63
17/12/15Southwell12:30Battle Success2.901.00-1.00-26.63
17/12/15Southwell14:30Clubland44.001.00-1.00-27.63
17/12/15Southwell14:30Foolaad21.471.00-1.00-28.63
17/12/15Southwell14:30Lawyer11.501.00-1.00-29.63
17/12/15Southwell14:30Townsville24.921.00-1.00-30.63
17/12/15Southwell15:30Countermand2.721.00-1.00-31.63
17/12/15Southwell15:30Weald Of Kent34.221.00-1.00-32.63
17/12/15Chelmsford City16:05Ubla7.391.00-1.00-33.63
17/12/15Chelmsford City17:10Spring Dixie57.741.00-1.00-34.63
17/12/15Chelmsford City17:40Fever Few15.001.00-1.00-35.63
17/12/15Chelmsford City18:10Luna Mission19.641.00-1.00-36.63
17/12/15Chelmsford City18:40Schottische9.811.00-1.00-37.63
18/12/15Southwell12:00Amenable9.621.00-1.00-38.63
18/12/15Southwell12:00Excelling Oscar4.551.003.37-35.26
18/12/15Southwell13:00Hidden Treasures1.821.00-1.00-36.26
18/12/15Southwell14:10Sea Of Uncertainty2.981.00-1.00-37.26
18/12/15Southwell14:10Strands Of Silk24.001.00-1.00-38.26
18/12/15Southwell14:45Lackaday40.751.00-1.00-39.26
18/12/15Wolverhampton16:05Ice Alert17.631.00-1.00-40.26
18/12/15Wolverhampton16:05Princess Cookie4.601.00-1.00-41.26
18/12/15Wolverhampton16:40Harry Champion4.741.00-1.00-42.26
18/12/15Wolverhampton16:40Hide Your Fires40.001.00-1.00-43.26
18/12/15Wolverhampton18:40Charlie Lad6.241.00-1.00-44.26
19/12/15Lingfield12:05Burmese Whisper3.251.00-1.00-45.26
19/12/15Lingfield12:05Hearmenow4.051.00-1.00-46.26
19/12/15Lingfield13:10Ansaab16.501.00-1.00-47.26
19/12/15Lingfield14:55Dutiful Son23.001.00-1.00-48.26
21/12/15Chelmsford City16:20Kuriosa11.141.00-1.00-49.26
21/12/15Wolverhampton17:10Highest Quality5.401.00-1.00-50.26
21/12/15Wolverhampton17:40Marmarus15.241.00-1.00-51.26
21/12/15Wolverhampton18:40Binky Blue39.041.00-1.00-52.26
21/12/15Wolverhampton19:10Buckland Beau8.271.006.91-45.35
21/12/15Wolverhampton19:10Herculian Prince3.761.00-1.00-46.35
22/12/15Southwell12:30Berkshire Beauty4.501.00-1.00-47.35
22/12/15Southwell13:00Mujazif9.261.00-1.00-48.35
22/12/15Southwell13:00Tartan Trip55.381.00-1.00-49.35
22/12/15Wolverhampton13:10Romancingthestone23.001.00-1.00-50.35
22/12/15Southwell14:00Carolinae8.001.00-1.00-51.35
22/12/15Wolverhampton15:10Desert Morning10.001.00-1.00-52.35
28/12/15Lingfield12:40Bernie's Boy1.881.00-1.00-53.35
28/12/15Lingfield14:25Dutiful Son15.131.00-1.00-54.35
28/12/15Lingfield15:00Miro3.761.00-1.00-55.35
28/12/15Lingfield15:00Mr Quicksilver3.781.002.64-52.71
29/12/15Southwell12:30Remaan6.691.00-1.00-53.71
29/12/15Southwell13:05Cool Beans16.001.00-1.00-54.71
29/12/15Southwell14:15Burmese Whisper3.751.00-1.00-55.71
29/12/15Southwell14:15Falcons Fire6.041.00-1.00-56.71
29/12/15Southwell14:50Marmooz9.601.00-1.00-57.71
30/12/15Lingfield12:00Rantan4.801.00-1.00-58.71
30/12/15Lingfield13:00Stamp Of Approval6.401.00-1.00-59.71
30/12/15Lingfield13:35Semille Obon182.221.00-1.00-60.71
30/12/15Lingfield14:40Lady Pinnacle10.001.00-1.00-61.71
30/12/15Wolverhampton16:40Charlie Lad5.921.00-1.00-62.71
30/12/15Wolverhampton17:40Song Of Paradise3.401.00-1.00-63.71
31/12/15Lingfield13:00Faster Company28.631.00-1.00-64.71
31/12/15Lingfield13:00Ilzam12.691.00-1.00-65.71
31/12/15Lingfield13:00Lady Lloyd12.261.00-1.00-66.71
31/12/15Lingfield13:30Cambodia2.961.00-1.00-67.71
31/12/15Lingfield13:30Charmy7.321.00-1.00-68.71
31/12/15Lingfield14:00Captain Lars1.941.000.89-67.82
31/12/15Lingfield14:30Kingcroft18.001.00-1.00-68.82
31/12/15Lingfield14:30Mystical Sapphire10.001.00-1.00-69.82
01/01/16Southwell13:30Underdressed4.041.00-1.00-70.82
02/01/16Chelmsford City12:30Farletti11.501.00-1.00-71.82
02/01/16Chelmsford City12:30J'Aspire29.001.00-1.00-72.82
02/01/16Chelmsford City12:30Spring Dixie27.051.00-1.00-73.82
02/01/16Chelmsford City13:05The Commendatore7.201.00-1.00-74.82
02/01/16Chelmsford City13:05Voices Of Kings215.651.00-1.00-75.82
02/01/16Chelmsford City13:40Fast Enough5.691.004.46-71.36
02/01/16Southwell12:50Ms Eboracum15.101.00-1.00-72.36
02/01/16Southwell12:50Pancake Day12.671.00-1.00-73.36
02/01/16Southwell13:25Hannington11.071.00-1.00-74.36
02/01/16Southwell13:25Two Moons4.311.00-1.00-75.36
02/01/16Southwell14:35Divertimenti42.051.00-1.00-76.36
02/01/16Southwell15:10Fair's Fair4.001.00-1.00-77.36
02/01/16Southwell15:10Independent Rose28.211.00-1.00-78.36
02/01/16Southwell15:10Kuriosa2.501.001.42-76.94
03/01/16Chelmsford City13:30Kelvin Hall4.861.00-1.00-77.94
03/01/16Chelmsford City15:00Blue Melody Girl68.791.00-1.00-78.94
04/01/16Wolverhampton14:00Gulland Rock12.921.0011.32-67.62
04/01/16Wolverhampton14:35Sewn Up7.651.00-1.00-68.62
04/01/16Wolverhampton15:10Al Muheer8.761.00-1.00-69.62
04/01/16Wolverhampton15:10Greek Islands15.001.00-1.00-70.62
04/01/16Wolverhampton15:10The Firm50.991.00-1.00-71.62
04/01/16Wolverhampton15:40Apache Glory28.001.00-1.00-72.62
04/01/16Wolverhampton15:40Archie's Advice10.441.00-1.00-73.62
04/01/16Wolverhampton15:40Mr Red Clubs16.501.00-1.00-74.62
04/01/16Wolverhampton15:40The Lampo Genie29.061.00-1.00-75.62
04/01/16Wolverhampton16:40Ice Alert23.611.00-1.00-76.62
04/01/16Wolverhampton16:40Inswing5.421.00-1.00-77.62
04/01/16Wolverhampton17:10Angel Way17.581.00-1.00-78.62
05/01/16Southwell12:40Never Say14.612.00-2.00-80.62
05/01/16Lingfield14:00Stars At Night2.521.001.44-79.18
06/01/16Chelmsford City14:00Assault On Rome8.241.00-1.00-80.18
06/01/16Chelmsford City15:00White Dog25.641.00-1.00-81.18
06/01/16Wolverhampton15:50Ohsosecret3.661.002.53-78.65
06/01/16Kempton Park16:40Sky Ferry51.331.00-1.00-79.65
06/01/16Kempton Park17:40Ubla9.571.00-1.00-80.65
06/01/16Kempton Park18:10Cahill8.891.00-1.00-81.65
06/01/16Kempton Park18:10Music Man48.001.00-1.00-82.65
06/01/16Kempton Park18:10Royal Warranty6.021.00-1.00-83.65
07/01/16Chelmsford City17:10Grosmont32.001.00-1.00-84.65
07/01/16Chelmsford City18:10Scarlet Minstrel3.291.00-1.00-85.65
07/01/16Chelmsford City19:10Be Royale4.851.00-1.00-86.65
07/01/16Chelmsford City20:10Nortron5.301.00-1.00-87.65
08/01/16Lingfield13:05Epsom Day1.971.000.92-86.73
08/01/16Wolverhampton16:15Fearbuster38.841.00-1.00-87.73
08/01/16Wolverhampton16:15Semra15.021.00-1.00-88.73
08/01/16Wolverhampton17:15Ormanumps11.111.00-1.00-89.73
08/01/16Wolverhampton17:45Cappy Brown9.001.00-1.00-90.73
09/01/16Lingfield12:45Lord Huntingdon5.401.00-1.00-91.73
09/01/16Lingfield13:20Manhattan Skyline52.261.00-1.00-92.73
09/01/16Lingfield13:55Twin Point3.211.002.10-90.63

We discovered early on in the trial that by betting on the selections in the place market, we were able to make a pretty good profit. We made a loss on these in the 3rd month, but made an overall profit of 28.69pts since the beginning of the trial. However, this isn’t a part of the service so will not be included as part of our official results & rating.

Profit At The Races is available for £29.99 per month. It would probably make sense to offer an annual option, for those that are happy to take a long-term view.

Unfortunately we will be rating this service as a Fail. We don’t doubt that Stuart is able to make a profit with his service in the long-term, but there are some horrific swings along the way. In hindsight we would have opted for a 200pt bank, but we went with the 100pts stated on the sales page. However, we still would have lost almost half of the bank, so it would not have altered our final decision.


Profit At The Races Review: Update Two

15th December 2015

We are back with our second update for Profit At The Races and the rollercoaster continues. The month got off to a terrible start with a long losing streak, where there were just 2 wins out of 32 bets. Following this, things started to pick up again with a few wins here and there, putting us back in profit. Unfortunately the service hit another bad run following this and finished the month with a loss of 38.22pts.

The average odds we bet at this month were 25.75, so you would certainly expect to see these downswings. The problem is, this may be too much for some people to handle. We are using a 100pt bank, which is not in danger just yet, sitting at 71.73pts. A 150-200pt bank can be used if you prefer.

In our last update, we discovered that the place bets were performing extremely well. We have continued to record these results and this month they made a further 10.53pts profit. Not as good as last month, but good enough! This brings the total profit made from the place bets up to 39.6pts.

 
Key Stats:

WinPlace
Number of Bets204204
Profit/Loss (pts)-38.22+10.53
Average Odds25.755.12
Strike Rate13.7%39.7%
ROI-18.7%5.2%
Bank71.73139.6

Results for month #2:

DateCourseTimeSelectionOddsStakeProfit/LossRunning Total
10/11/15Wolverhampton16:40Ormanumps12.281.00-1.008.95
10/11/15Wolverhampton17:10Percys Princess22.191.00-1.007.95
10/11/15Wolverhampton17:10Shaw Ting25.301.00-1.006.95
10/11/15Wolverhampton17:40Soldier In Action1.921.000.877.82
10/11/15Wolverhampton17:40Free Bounty14.501.00-1.006.82
10/11/15Wolverhampton17:40Paris Magic8.721.00-1.005.82
10/11/15Wolverhampton17:40Inwithachance284.131.00-1.004.82
10/11/15Wolverhampton18:10Brandon Castle2.531.00-1.003.82
10/11/15Wolverhampton19:10Ejayteekay3.981.00-1.002.82
10/11/15Wolverhampton19:10Make Music2.921.00-1.001.82
10/11/15Wolverhampton19:40Jolly Red Jeanz8.361.00-1.000.82
11/11/15Kempton Park17:40Lord Aslan21.921.00-1.00-0.18
11/11/15Kempton Park17:40Bandit Bob30.861.00-1.00-1.18
11/11/15Kempton Park18:10Prince Of Arran3.451.002.331.15
11/11/15Kempton Park18:10Charmy3.841.00-1.000.15
11/11/15Kempton Park19:10The Commendatore2.551.00-1.00-0.85
12/11/15Southwell12:20Furiously Fast4.701.00-1.00-1.85
12/11/15Southwell12:50Underdressed3.001.00-1.00-2.85
12/11/15Southwell12:50Free to Roam20.001.00-1.00-3.85
12/11/15Southwell13:20Ada Misobel4.601.00-1.00-4.85
12/11/15Southwell13:20Where It Began70.001.00-1.00-5.85
12/11/15Chelmsford City16:25Burmese Whisper15.001.00-1.00-6.85
12/11/15Chelmsford City16:25Bahamian Boy37.441.00-1.00-7.85
12/11/15Chelmsford City16:55Giant Shadow10.311.00-1.00-8.85
12/11/15Chelmsford City16:55Cadland Lad6.111.00-1.00-9.85
12/11/15Chelmsford City17:25Mystic Blaze6.801.00-1.00-10.85
12/11/15Chelmsford City17:55Kelvin Hall4.811.00-1.00-11.85
12/11/15Chelmsford City18:25Late Show117.101.00-1.00-12.85
12/11/15Chelmsford City18:55Breakheart7.781.00-1.00-13.85
12/11/15Chelmsford City18:55Lord Reason8.891.00-1.00-14.85
12/11/15Chelmsford City19:55Chefchaouen6.771.00-1.00-15.85
12/11/15Chelmsford City19:55Mercury3.601.00-1.00-16.85
13/11/15Lingfield12:20Summer Chorus1.901.000.85-16.00
13/11/15Lingfield12:55Emirates Comfort2.271.00-1.00-17.00
13/11/15Lingfield12:55Ballynanty3.721.002.58-14.42
13/11/15Lingfield13:30Persian Breeze10.661.00-1.00-15.42
13/11/15Lingfield14:05Hannington15.831.0014.09-1.33
13/11/15Wolverhampton16:45Sewn Up5.701.004.473.14
13/11/15Wolverhampton19:20Archie's Advice9.261.00-1.002.14
14/11/15Lingfield12:50Breathless6.251.00-1.001.14
14/11/15Lingfield15:45Evacusafe Lady8.451.00-1.000.14
14/11/15Wolverhampton19:45Rasasee16.401.00-1.00-0.86
14/11/15Wolverhampton19:45City Of Ideas3.291.002.181.32
14/11/15Wolverhampton20:15Stella Etoile13.411.00-1.000.32
16/11/15Wolverhampton15:55For Ayman7.671.00-1.00-0.68
16/11/15Wolverhampton16:25Kingscroft26.001.00-1.00-1.68
16/11/15Wolverhampton16:55Laser Blazer25.821.00-1.00-2.68
16/11/15Wolverhampton17:25Yorkindred Spirit9.751.00-1.00-3.68
17/11/15Lingfield12:10Pourquoi Non8.271.00-1.00-4.68
17/11/15Lingfield12:10Gimlet39.271.00-1.00-5.68
17/11/15Lingfield12:40Baydar1.511.000.48-5.20
17/11/15Lingfield12:40Golden Isles402.411.00-1.00-6.20
18/11/15Kempton Park16:25Buckland Beau6.601.00-1.00-7.20
18/11/15Kempton Park16:25The Gay Cavalier6.531.00-1.00-8.20
18/11/15Kempton Park17:25Lord Huntingdon22.001.00-1.00-9.20
18/11/15Kempton Park17:55Amanaat1.911.000.92-8.28
18/11/15Kempton Park18:25Predilection3.731.002.59-5.69
18/11/15Kempton Park18:25Moon Over Mobay75.001.00-1.00-6.69
18/11/15Kempton Park18:55Celestial Path13.441.00-1.00-7.69
18/11/15Kempton Park19:25Longshadow21.001.00-1.00-8.69
18/11/15Kempton Park19:55Priors Brook5.401.00-1.00-9.69
19/11/15Lingfield12:10Dream Of Summer7.531.006.20-3.49
19/11/15Lingfield12:10Faster Company82.321.00-1.00-4.49
19/11/15Lingfield12:40Dark Shot2.081.00-1.00-5.49
19/11/15Lingfield12:40Vroom15.501.00-1.00-6.49
19/11/15Lingfield13:10Just Fab3.561.00-1.00-7.49
19/11/15Lingfield14:15Real Smart6.031.004.78-2.71
19/11/15Lingfield14:15Mr Quicksilver3.151.00-1.00-3.71
19/11/15Lingfield14:15Polly Garter250.991.00-1.00-4.71
19/11/15Chelmsford City16:20Wishsong17.641.00-1.00-5.71
19/11/15Chelmsford City17:30Layla's Hero7.451.00-1.00-6.71
19/11/15Chelmsford City18:05Cordite21.181.00-1.00-7.71
19/11/15Chelmsford City19:10Mimi Luke136.551.00-1.00-8.71
19/11/15Chelmsford City19:40Scarlet Minstrel8.001.006.65-2.06
19/11/15Chelmsford City19:40Kristjano2.421.00-1.00-3.06
20/11/15Wolverhampton17:15Apollo Eleven36.001.00-1.00-4.06
20/11/15Wolverhampton17:15El Campeon5.501.004.270.21
20/11/15Wolverhampton17:45Haweeya6.631.00-1.00-0.79
20/11/15Wolverhampton18:20Ice Alert19.841.00-1.00-1.79
20/11/15Wolverhampton19:50Manolito3.701.00-1.00-2.79
21/11/15Lingfield11:45Bigbadboy6.201.00-1.00-3.79
21/11/15Lingfield12:50Race Day7.001.005.701.91
21/11/15Lingfield12:50Lady Macapa25.001.00-1.000.91
21/11/15Lingfield14:35Farletti5.401.00-1.00-0.09
21/11/15Wolverhampton18:15Sadie Babes7.301.00-1.00-1.09
21/11/15Wolverhampton18:45Dose10.131.00-1.00-2.09
21/11/15Wolverhampton18:45Cry Wolf13.021.00-1.00-3.09
21/11/15Wolverhampton19:45Hannington5.801.00-1.00-4.09
21/11/15Wolverhampton19:45Fleckerl8.261.00-1.00-5.09
21/11/15Wolverhampton19:45Al Muheer60.001.00-1.00-6.09
23/11/15Chelmsford City14:00Pickapocket11.001.00-1.00-7.09
23/11/15Chelmsford City15:05Upavon31.341.00-1.00-8.09
23/11/15Chelmsford City15:35Shipyard6.401.00-1.00-9.09
23/11/15Chelmsford City16:05Mystical Sapphire6.801.00-1.00-10.09
23/11/15Chelmsford City16:05Royal Normandy24.001.00-1.00-11.09
23/11/15Chelmsford City17:05Fast Approach36.001.00-1.00-12.09
23/11/15Chelmsford City17:05Signed Sealed3.421.00-1.00-13.09
24/11/15Southwell12:40Breathless16.801.00-1.00-14.09
24/11/15Southwell14:10Countermand1.711.000.67-13.42
24/11/15Southwell14:40Astra Hall34.981.00-1.00-14.42
24/11/15Southwell14:40Weald Of Kent13.891.00-1.00-15.42
24/11/15Southwell15:40Pancake Day6.031.00-1.00-16.42
25/11/15Lingfield12:00Sacred Trust55.001.00-1.00-17.42
25/11/15Lingfield12:30Emperor Napoleon39.921.00-1.00-18.42
25/11/15Kempton Park16:15Song Of Paradise43.771.00-1.00-19.42
25/11/15Kempton Park16:45The Gay Cavalier4.311.003.14-16.28
25/11/15Kempton Park17:15Buckland Beau5.001.00-1.00-17.28
25/11/15Kempton Park17:15Spring Dixie18.711.00-1.00-18.28
25/11/15Kempton Park17:15Freedom Rock6.941.00-1.00-19.28
25/11/15Kempton Park17:45North Creek85.001.00-1.00-20.28
25/11/15Kempton Park16:45Hawkin26.981.00-1.00-21.28
25/11/15Kempton Park18:45Latenightrequest48.001.00-1.00-22.28
25/11/15Kempton Park19:15Rivellino12.951.00-1.00-23.28
26/11/15Southwell12:45Tarando15.741.00-1.00-24.28
26/11/15Southwell13:20Free To Roam58.521.00-1.00-25.28
26/11/15Southwell13:55Esspeegee34.491.00-1.00-26.28
26/11/15Southwell13:55Mystic Blaze6.401.00-1.00-27.28
26/11/15Southwell14:30Never Say44.101.00-1.00-28.28
26/11/15Chelmsford City16:40Make Music4.301.00-1.00-29.28
26/11/15Chelmsford City16:40Investiture9.921.00-1.00-30.28
26/11/15Chelmsford City17:40Wynford3.441.00-1.00-31.28
26/11/15Chelmsford City18:10Epsom Day2.201.00-1.00-32.28
26/11/15Chelmsford City18:10Silas R27.001.0024.70-7.58
26/11/15Chelmsford City18:10Jassur5.001.00-1.00-8.58
26/11/15Chelmsford City19:10Rock Of Max3.261.00-1.00-9.58
27/11/15Wolverhampton18:45Maggie Pink36.961.00-1.00-10.58
27/11/15Wolverhampton19:15Hercullian Prince16.631.00-1.00-11.58
27/11/15Wolverhampton19:45Evacusafe Lady30.491.00-1.00-12.58
27/11/15Wolverhampton19:45Manolito3.261.00-1.00-13.58
27/11/15Wolverhampton19:45Sheila's Buddy9.021.007.62-5.96
28/11/15Wolverhampton17:45Showdaisy14.851.00-1.00-6.96
28/11/15Wolverhampton18:45Comadoir68.381.00-1.00-7.96
28/11/15Wolverhampton18:45Mr Christopher4.801.003.61-4.35
28/11/15Wolverhampton20:45Golden Thread47.651.00-1.00-5.35
30/11/15Wolverhampton13:55Moon River7.001.00-1.00-6.35
30/11/15Kempton Park14:20Evacusafe Lady15.241.00-1.00-7.35
30/11/15Wolverhampton15:00Longshadow11.001.00-1.00-8.35
30/11/15Wolverhampton15:30Masqueraded1.881.000.84-7.51
30/11/15Wolverhampton15:30Lady President5.241.00-1.00-8.51
30/11/15Kempton Park15:50Zaakhir23.001.0020.0911.58
30/11/15Kempton Park15:50Corked12.401.00-1.0010.58
30/11/15Kempton Park15:50Doctor Serena7.231.00-1.009.58
30/11/15Wolverhampton16:05Jolly Red Jeanz9.251.00-1.008.58
30/11/15Kempton Park16:20Divine Joy84.821.00-1.007.58
30/11/15Kempton Park16:20Fiftyshadesofpink32.001.00-1.006.58
30/11/15Kempton Park16:20Golden Isles40.721.00-1.005.58
30/11/15Kempton Park16:50Breakheart14.011.00-1.004.58
30/11/15Kempton Park17:20Kinglami27.571.00-1.003.58
30/11/15Kempton Park17:20Trucanini12.261.00-1.002.58
30/11/15Kempton Park17:20Nortron9.001.00-1.001.58
30/11/15Kempton Park17:20Jimmy's Hall59.151.00-1.000.58
01/12/15Wolverhampton14:40Burmese Whisper2.621.00-1.00-0.42
01/12/15Wolverhampton14:40Hearmenow9.281.00-1.00-1.42
01/12/15Wolverhampton15:40Sun'aq3.961.00-1.00-2.42
01/12/15Wolverhampton16:10Clouded Gold35.301.00-1.00-3.42
01/12/15Wolverhampton16:10Lady Pinnacle4.371.003.20-0.22
01/12/15Wolverhampton16:40Pensax Boy1.181.000.17-0.05
01/12/15Wolverhampton17:40Berkshire Beauty6.401.00-1.00-1.05
02/12/15Lingfield15:00Royal Normandy8.301.00-1.00-2.05
02/12/15Kempton Park16:40Pearl Acclaim9.231.00-1.00-3.05
02/12/15Kempton Park17:10Go On Go On Go On32.361.00-1.00-4.05
03/12/15Kempton Park17:10May Rose4.771.00-1.00-5.05
03/12/15Kempton Park17:10Logarithm12.411.00-1.00-6.05
03/12/15Kempton Park17:10Daioni232.351.00-1.00-7.05
04/12/15Wolverhampton16:10Harry Champion2.851.001.76-5.29
04/12/15Wolverhampton16:45Ejayteekay3.361.00-1.00-6.29
04/12/15Wolverhampton16:45Taqdeer2.691.00-1.00-7.29
04/12/15Wolverhampton17:45Caltra Colleen35.811.00-1.00-8.29
04/12/15Wolverhampton17:45The Firm25.611.00-1.00-9.29
04/12/15Wolverhampton18:45Step On It2.841.00-1.00-10.29
04/12/15Wolverhampton19:15Carolinae18.391.00-1.00-11.29
05/12/15Wolverhampton18:15Mops Angel10.001.00-1.00-12.29
05/12/15Wolverhampton18:45Men United266.381.00-1.00-13.29
05/12/15Wolverhampton19:45Al Fattan13.141.00-1.00-14.29
05/12/15Wolverhampton20:15Gimlet152.001.00-1.00-15.29
05/12/15Wolverhampton20:15Louve Reine171.641.00-1.00-16.29
05/12/15Wolverhampton20:45Swinging Hawk245.941.00-1.00-17.29
05/12/15Wolverhampton20:45First Mohican7.971.006.62-10.67
07/12/15Lingfield12:30Burmese Whisper2.991.00-1.00-11.67
07/12/15Lingfield12:30Hearmenow4.641.003.46-8.21
07/12/15Lingfield13:30Charmy7.191.00-1.00-9.21
07/12/15Chelmsford City14:10Dismantle4.701.00-1.00-10.21
07/12/15Lingfield15:00Golden Heritage10.501.00-1.00-11.21
07/12/15Lingfield15:00Hannington6.631.00-1.00-12.21
07/12/15Chelmsford City16:40Chefchaouen4.401.00-1.00-13.21
07/12/15Chelmsford City17:10Spring Dixie12.001.00-1.00-14.21
08/12/15Southwell12:00Southern Seas6.681.00-1.00-15.21
08/12/15Southwell12:30Yattwee4.101.002.94-12.27
08/12/15Southwell13:30Amenable4.501.00-1.00-13.27
08/12/15Southwell13:30Bunker Hill Lass9.421.00-1.00-14.27
08/12/15Southwell14:00Moonlight Venture4.761.00-1.00-15.27
08/12/15Southwell15:00Charlie Lad11.621.00-1.00-16.27
09/12/15Lingfield12:50Layla's Hero10.001.00-1.00-17.27
09/12/15Lingfield13:20Big Time3.051.00-1.00-18.27
09/12/15Lingfield14:55Apache Glory9.861.00-1.00-19.27
09/12/15Lingfield14:55Megara12.861.00-1.00-20.27
09/12/15Kempton Park16:05Mr Quicksilver1.721.00-1.00-21.27
09/12/15Kempton Park17:10Ghostwriter23.911.00-1.00-22.27
09/12/15Kempton Park17:40Enreaching2.261.00-1.00-23.27
09/12/15Kempton Park18:40Scarlet Minstrel5.031.00-1.00-24.27
09/12/15Kempton Park18:40Cotillion26.971.00-1.00-25.27
09/12/15Kempton Park19:10Art Scholar24.631.00-1.00-26.27
09/12/15Kempton Park19:10Royal Warranty12.501.00-1.00-27.27
09/12/15Kempton Park19:10Jolievitesse14.501.00-1.00-28.27

We hope to see an improved win rate next month, as our betting bank could be in trouble soon if things don’t get better. Can Profit At The Races turn this around? We’ll be back next month with another update.


Profit At The Races Review: Update One

11th November 2015

We have been trialling Profit At The Races for a month and it’s time for an update. It’s been a bit of a rollercoaster, but the service has finished the first month with 9.95pts profit. This service uses Betfair SP odds, so this is certainly not a result to be sniffed at. But when I say rollercoaster – we managed to hit the 30pt profit mark several times throughout the month, and then subsequently gave it back after a string of losing bets.

There were a few big priced winners at 21.0, 19.5 and 18.66, along with some lower odds wins in-between. There were 133 bets this month at average odds of 22.17 with a strike rate of 15%, which gave a return on investment of 7.5%.

Near the beginning of the trial, we noticed a lot of these high priced horses were coming so close to winning the race, but narrowly missing out and placing 2nd or 3rd. We decided to go back and record the Betfair SP for the place market and see how the selections had performed. It turned out they were doing really well, so we carried on recording the place results.

At the end of the 1st month, we found that the place bets have out-performed the Win bets… by a mile! The place bets returned 29.07pts profit with a very nice return on investment of 21.9%. The average odds were 4.93 with a strike rate of 41.4%.

We spoke to Stuart from Profit At The Races, and he offered some advice about the place bets that you would need to be aware of:

As part of the service, I only recommend placing 1 point back bets purely because the liquidity in the place markets isn’t always very strong. That being said I do know that over the past years, backing each way does add some extra points to the annual tally.

If users want to take this approach it won’t be detrimental to the end outcome. I would always advise users take into account the size of bank they use though, if they are placing then a 2 point bet essentially (1 point back, 1 point place).

– Stuart, Profit At The Races

There weren’t selections sent out every day, but you receive an email notifying you of “no bet” days. On betting days the service tends to focus on one meeting (or two on a busy day) and on average there were 7 bets bet each time.

Results for month #1:

DateCourseTimeSelectionOddsProfit/LossRunning Total
10/10/15Chelmsford City19:10Cadland Lad9.40-1.00-1.00
10/10/15Chelmsford City19:40Thawraat4.87-1.00-2.00
10/10/15Chelmsford City19:40Arc Cara13.62-1.00-3.00
10/10/15Chelmsford City21:10Pancake Day26.03-1.00-4.00
13/10/15Wolverhampton18:10Kristjano2.82-1.00-5.00
13/10/15Wolverhampton19:40Incurs Four Faults5.87-1.00-6.00
13/10/15Wolverhampton19:40Marmooz97.96-1.00-7.00
13/10/15Wolverhampton20:40Logans Lad34.27-1.00-8.00
14/10/15Kempton Park17:45The Burnham Mare4.523.34-4.66
14/10/15Kempton Park18:15Saffire Song11.50-1.00-5.66
14/10/15Kempton Park19:15Desiderada10.619.233.57
14/10/15Kempton Park19:15Always A Dream23.00-1.002.57
14/10/15Kempton Park19:15Lozah10.50-1.001.57
14/10/15Kempton Park20:15Trucanini5.25-1.000.57
14/10/15Kempton Park20:15Cascading Stars8.78-1.00-0.43
14/10/15Kempton Park20:15Skinny Love13.5011.9811.55
15/10/15Chelmsford City17:45Florencio19.5017.5829.13
15/10/15Chelmsford City18:15Elltaaf2.70-1.0028.13
15/10/15Chelmsford City18:45Gold Trade1.58-1.0027.13
15/10/15Chelmsford City18:45Miletaketheball24.81-1.0026.13
15/10/15Chelmsford City18:45Rasikh66.62-1.0025.13
15/10/15Chelmsford City18:45Equal Point34.00-1.0024.13
15/10/15Chelmsford City19:15Steady Major3.95-1.0023.13
15/10/15Chelmsford City20:15La Fritillaire6.26-1.0022.13
16/10/15Wolverhampton18:20Ilzam9.20-1.0021.13
16/10/15Wolverhampton18:50Lady Nayef5.80-1.0020.13
16/10/15Wolverhampton19:50Little Choosey12.79-1.0019.13
16/10/15Wolverhampton20:50Hall Of Beauty29.00-1.0018.13
16/10/15Wolverhampton21:20Sewn Up6.87-1.0017.13
16/10/15Wolverhampton21:20You Be Lucky41.33-1.0016.13
17/10/15Wolverhampton18:45Perardua18.24-1.0015.13
17/10/15Wolverhampton19:45Sea Of Red50.00-1.0014.13
20/10/15Lingfield14:00Sahalin18.6616.7830.91
20/10/15Lingfield15:30Kinematic7.90-1.0029.91
20/10/15Lingfield16:05John Palmer51.02-1.0028.91
20/10/15Lingfield17:10Lord Reason5.40-1.0027.91
20/10/15Wolverhampton17:40Golden Thread193.37-1.0026.91
20/10/15Wolverhampton17:40Thecornishbarron262.21-1.0025.91
20/10/15Wolverhampton17:40Fair's Fair25.21-1.0024.91
20/10/15Wolverhampton18:10Obsidian5.69-1.0023.91
20/10/15Wolverhampton18:10Fleckerl17.72-1.0022.91
20/10/15Wolverhampton19:10Hide Your Fires9.44-1.0021.91
20/10/15Wolverhampton19:10Musical Taste3.262.1924.10
20/10/15Wolverhampton19:40North Creek50.09-1.0023.10
20/10/15Wolverhampton20:10Ilzam59.16-1.0022.10
20/10/15Wolverhampton20:10Vroom14.00-1.0021.10
20/10/15Wolverhampton20:40Evacusafe Lady6.60-1.0020.10
21/10/15Kempton Park18:25Murad Khan3.25-1.0019.10
21/10/15Kempton Park18:55Change The Game3.54-1.0018.10
21/10/15Kempton Park18:55Pushaq38.29-1.0017.10
21/10/15Kempton Park19:55Ronnie Baird16.50-1.0016.10
21/10/15Kempton Park20:55Marmooz42.26-1.0015.10
22/10/15Chelmsford City17:25Rockspirit24.00-1.0014.10
22/10/15Chelmsford City17:55Tenzing Norgay7.20-1.0013.10
22/10/15Chelmsford City17:55Captain Gerald9.91-1.0012.10
22/10/15Chelmsford City17:55Jassur8.307.0419.14
22/10/15Chelmsford City19:25Royal Altitude4.002.8521.99
22/10/15Chelmsford City19:55Midnight Dance6.605.3227.31
23/10/15Wolverhampton18:50Scurr Mist5.01-1.0026.31
23/10/15Wolverhampton19:20Mrs Eve14.59-1.0025.31
23/10/15Wolverhampton19:50Sewn Up7.19-1.0024.31
23/10/15Wolverhampton20:20Technicolour5.90-1.0023.31
23/10/15Wolverhampton21:20Sea Of Red5.10-1.0022.31
23/10/15Wolverhampton21:20Schottische31.77-1.0021.31
24/10/15Chelmsford City18:40Hearmenow6.29-1.0020.31
24/10/15Chelmsford City19:10Lovely Memory5.65-1.0019.31
24/10/15Chelmsford City19:10Forceful Appeal47.43-1.0018.31
24/10/15Chelmsford City20:10The Gay Cavalier5.57-1.0017.31
24/10/15Chelmsford City20:40Tafolau9.66-1.0016.31
24/10/15Chelmsford City20:40Hall Of Beauty41.19-1.0015.31
27/10/15Lingfield13:30Von Blucher2.381.3116.62
27/10/15Lingfield14:05Real Smart3.50-1.0015.62
27/10/15Lingfield14:05Cape Cay9.58-1.0014.62
27/10/15Lingfield14:40Prince Jai4.42-1.0013.62
27/10/15Wolverhampton18:10Sammy's Warrior15.58-1.0012.62
27/10/15Wolverhampton18:40Golden Thread40.00-1.0011.62
27/10/15Wolverhampton18:40Important Point1.360.3411.96
27/10/15Wolverhampton19:40Rasikh15.50-1.0010.96
27/10/15Wolverhampton19:40Threebagsue7.80-1.009.96
27/10/15Wolverhampton19:40We Are Ninety3.352.2312.19
28/10/15Chelmsford City13:30Velvet Revolution1.49-1.0011.19
28/10/15Chelmsford City15:00Bancnuanaheireann21.0019.0030.19
28/10/15Chelmsford City15:30Evacusafe Lady25.55-1.0029.19
28/10/15Kempton Park17:55Breathless14.00-1.0028.19
28/10/15Kempton Park18:25Nortron5.20-1.0027.19
28/10/15Kempton Park18:25Mystical Sapphire5.734.4931.68
30/10/15Wolverhampton16:40Billy Bond5.15-1.0030.68
30/10/15Wolverhampton17:40Chances Are13.03-1.0029.68
30/10/15Wolverhampton18:10Farham2.86-1.0028.68
30/10/15Wolverhampton18:10Golden Thread32.58-1.0027.68
30/10/15Wolverhampton19:40Lady Estella15.28-1.0026.68
31/10/15Wolverhampton17:10Kylla Instinct6.41-1.0025.68
31/10/15Wolverhampton17:10Cautious Optimism14.00-1.0024.68
31/10/15Wolverhampton18:15Kawaii8.80-1.0023.68
31/10/15Wolverhampton18:45Good Judge5.884.6428.32
31/10/15Wolverhampton18:45Gild Master11.59-1.0027.32
03/11/15Southwell12:40Schottische4.25-1.0026.32
03/11/15Southwell12:40Incurs Four Faults2.731.6427.96
03/11/15Southwell13:40New Lease Of Life19.50-1.0026.96
03/11/15Southwell14:10Romancingthestone7.27-1.0025.96
03/11/15Southwell16:10Ms Eboracum3.75-1.0024.96
03/11/15Wolverhampton16:40Haweeya9.40-1.0023.96
03/11/15Wolverhampton17:10Thataboy41.24-1.0022.96
03/11/15Wolverhampton18:10Jassur2.03-1.0021.96
03/11/15Wolverhampton18:10Lady President49.97-1.0020.96
03/11/15Wolverhampton19:10Lord Reason4.16-1.0019.96
03/11/15Wolverhampton19:10Thecornisharron43.21-1.0018.96
03/11/15Wolverhampton19:40Stamp Of Approval10.11-1.0017.96
04/11/15Kempton Park16:40Singoalla5.85-1.0016.96
04/11/15Kempton Park16:40Grey's Angel11.79-1.0015.96
04/11/15Kempton Park16:40Hall Of Beauty10.35-1.0014.96
04/11/15Kempton Park17:10Rocksavage24.00-1.0013.96
04/11/15Kempton Park17:40Secret Sense3.98-1.0012.96
04/11/15Kempton Park17:40Badalona Breeze293.00-1.0011.96
04/11/15Kempton Park18:10Pacommand47.50-1.0010.96
04/11/15Kempton Park18:10Sandacres95.00-1.009.96
04/11/15Kempton Park19:40Osipova5.884.6414.60
04/11/15Kempton Park20:10Starlight Banner12.00-1.0013.60
05/11/15Chelmsford City16:35Cappy Brown6.20-1.0012.60
05/11/15Chelmsford City17:40Oceanographer3.352.2314.83
06/11/15Chelmsford City18:10Famous Kid2.721.6316.46
06/11/15Chelmsford City18:40Fantasy Gladiator5.65-1.0015.46
06/11/15Chelmsford City19:10Cockney Island2.82-1.0014.46
06/11/15Chelmsford City19:40Frangarry3.11-1.0013.46
09/11/15Kempton Park14:25Bella Blur13.50-1.0012.46
09/11/15Kempton Park14:25Fast Approach7.57-1.0011.46
09/11/15Kempton Park15:00Jolievitesse10.23-1.0010.46
09/11/15Kempton Park15:35Two Moons15.69-1.009.46
09/11/15Kempton Park16:10Wild Hacked2.88-1.008.46
09/11/15Kempton Park16:10French Legend155.22-1.007.46
09/11/15Kempton Park16:10Cape Banjo9.60-1.006.46
09/11/15Kempton Park17:10The Steward5.734.4910.95
09/11/15Kempton Park17:40Royal Normandy11.50-1.009.95

So despite the ups and downs, the service has started off with a respectable ROI and profit. Betting at such long odds only requires a low strike rate, but it does require you to look at the bigger picture as there are bound to be low points.

We will be back next month with another update of our results.


Profit At The Races Review: Introduction

10th October 2015

Today we are starting a new trial of a horse racing betting service called Profit At The Races. It focuses mainly on UK All-Weather races and tips are sent out all year round. This service has been running since 2008 and has made an average profit of 531pts per year using level stakes. What is more impressive is this is from betting at BSP (Betfair Starting Price).

We know that once you begin to make money at a bookmaker, they cotton on to it pretty quickly and you won’t have the benefit of BOG (Best Odds Guaranteed) prices for long. A service that offers the chance to make money at BSP is not something we see very often.

The full results for the past 7 years are available to download from the website. This is always good to see and for the stats hungry amongst you, there is plenty to analyse!

Breakdown of profits achieved so far:

2008 – 479 points
2009 – 526 points
2010 – 233 points
2011 – 911 points
2012 – 475 points
2013 – 350 points
2014 – 745 points

 
Stuart, the mind behind Profit At The Races, has put together some more information for us…

“The service is very simple – I email out all selections as early as possible, usually well before 9am, and all users have to do is place a 1 point back bet using the Betfair SP functionality.

The minimum 100 point bank is a must, I have had far too many users join and then quit after a losing run… put simply I do have losing runs and poor periods which can span months. As I focus this service on AW racing, the middle part of the year can in some seasons be poor, unfortunately this season has seen that but if you analyse previous years you will see this isn’t a one off.

The reason I mention this is, while I charge a monthly sub, I do this so that the service is affordable to potential subscribers. Ideally I would charge annually as that where you extract value from my methods, as I am always confident over a full year any poor months will be more than compensated for with the winning ones.

I am looking for loyal long-term subscribers, who are prepared to set out a bank as required and place bets like a professional, with no emotion attached to losses (or wins) and stick with the plan long-term.”

Stuart has been honest with us about the fact there will be long losing runs with this service. We can see from the results that earlier this year there was a streak of 23 losing bets. Even though the long-term results show the service to be profitable, this may put some people off.

If you do struggle to handle downswings like this, you might consider using a larger betting bank of 150-200pts to make it more comfortable. There have been winners tipped at a BSP as big as 319/1, so if you are patient enough, the wins should outweigh the losses.

It’ll be interesting to see whether this service can turn a profit during our trial. The current P/L for this year sits at just +25pts, but it’s not unusual for a dramatic recovery to take place, as we have seen in the results from previous years. Taking in to account what we know so far, we may have to treat this as a long-term review before we give a final rating.

The subscription fee is currently set at £29.99 per month. Stuart can only take 75 subscribers on at the moment so that liquidity doesn’t become an issue.

We will be back in a month’s time with an update of our results.

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